1 00:00:05,369 --> 00:00:07,644 In Toronto's war on crime, 2 00:00:07,645 --> 00:00:10,161 the worst offenders are pursued by the detectives 3 00:00:10,162 --> 00:00:13,126 of the Specialized Criminal Investigation Unit. 4 00:00:13,127 --> 00:00:14,437 These are their stories. 5 00:00:15,507 --> 00:00:17,334 User base is up. 6 00:00:18,334 --> 00:00:21,161 Client retention is at an all-time high. 7 00:00:21,162 --> 00:00:25,506 The world is out that we are headed for IPO. 8 00:00:25,507 --> 00:00:29,162 But before I make any sudden moves, I need board approval. 9 00:00:30,024 --> 00:00:31,196 So, let's put this to a vote. 10 00:00:32,196 --> 00:00:33,231 All in favour? 11 00:00:34,093 --> 00:00:35,541 - Aye. - Aye. 12 00:00:43,265 --> 00:00:44,196 Sonia? 13 00:00:45,852 --> 00:00:47,609 W-W-Z-D? 14 00:00:47,610 --> 00:00:49,057 Sorry? Excuse me? 15 00:00:49,058 --> 00:00:50,575 What would Zach do? 16 00:00:50,576 --> 00:00:52,782 You're his proxy. What's your call? 17 00:00:52,783 --> 00:00:54,541 My call... uh... 18 00:00:56,231 --> 00:00:58,127 My call is... 19 00:00:59,921 --> 00:01:01,403 I need to make a call. 20 00:01:09,748 --> 00:01:10,609 Hey. 21 00:01:10,610 --> 00:01:12,540 Hi, hon, it's official. 22 00:01:12,541 --> 00:01:16,024 Darius wants to go public. How do you want me to proceed? 23 00:01:16,921 --> 00:01:17,990 It doesn't matter. 24 00:01:18,472 --> 00:01:19,851 Even if you object, 25 00:01:19,852 --> 00:01:21,093 you're just gonna be outnumbered by the board. 26 00:01:22,127 --> 00:01:22,920 Mom, I... 27 00:01:22,921 --> 00:01:24,023 What is it? 28 00:01:24,024 --> 00:01:25,265 It's just, I built that ship. 29 00:01:26,024 --> 00:01:27,713 I built that ship and I can't steer it 30 00:01:27,714 --> 00:01:29,195 and now it's headed straight for an iceberg... 31 00:01:29,196 --> 00:01:33,023 Zach. Slow down. Are you okay? 32 00:01:33,024 --> 00:01:34,921 It's just... 33 00:01:36,369 --> 00:01:37,403 It's fine. 34 00:01:38,231 --> 00:01:40,782 It's all... fine. 35 00:01:40,783 --> 00:01:44,024 How about you tell me what you're looking at right now? 36 00:01:45,369 --> 00:01:48,541 Okay. I... 37 00:01:49,748 --> 00:01:52,782 see clouds that are stretching across the sky. 38 00:01:54,921 --> 00:01:56,990 Water lapping on the shore. 39 00:01:58,507 --> 00:01:59,575 It's nice. 40 00:01:59,576 --> 00:02:00,816 Peaceful? 41 00:02:00,817 --> 00:02:02,093 Yeah. 42 00:02:05,472 --> 00:02:06,507 Thanks mom. 43 00:02:07,472 --> 00:02:10,127 Last tenant was a seniors' travel agency. 44 00:02:10,783 --> 00:02:11,920 But with work from home, 45 00:02:11,921 --> 00:02:13,576 not a lot of people need office space. 46 00:02:15,162 --> 00:02:17,334 So, uh, what do you need it for? 47 00:02:18,093 --> 00:02:20,023 I want to stop working from home. 48 00:02:20,024 --> 00:02:21,783 I need a place that's quiet to write. 49 00:02:22,507 --> 00:02:23,610 You'll find that here. 50 00:02:24,541 --> 00:02:25,817 Half the building's vacant. 51 00:02:26,334 --> 00:02:27,300 And the other half? 52 00:02:28,334 --> 00:02:29,300 Dead quiet. 53 00:02:34,231 --> 00:02:35,300 First and last? 54 00:02:37,334 --> 00:02:38,748 Then I'll leave you to it. 55 00:02:52,679 --> 00:02:54,264 My turn, you got the last one. 56 00:02:54,265 --> 00:02:57,369 Consider this an apology for what I'm about to tell you. 57 00:02:58,541 --> 00:03:00,092 The petition to hand over 58 00:03:00,093 --> 00:03:02,921 your old case files was approved. 59 00:03:03,576 --> 00:03:06,506 I'm sorry, I know you've got your new job, 60 00:03:06,507 --> 00:03:09,368 and want to leave the past in the past, but I thought 61 00:03:09,369 --> 00:03:10,816 you should know, Jason. 62 00:03:10,817 --> 00:03:12,679 Everyone's gonna know it was my fault. 63 00:03:48,058 --> 00:03:49,713 I'm sorry, but my mind's made up. 64 00:03:55,645 --> 00:03:56,954 Whoa, whoa, whoa, no, no, no! 65 00:04:38,265 --> 00:04:41,127 Victim is Jason Kaplan. 58. 66 00:04:41,645 --> 00:04:44,609 Discovered at 5 AM this morning by parking enforcement. 67 00:04:44,610 --> 00:04:47,437 The killer crushed him against his own car and fled. 68 00:04:47,438 --> 00:04:50,264 Post-war building. No cameras, no gate. 69 00:04:50,265 --> 00:04:52,713 Traffic reconstruction found tire aceleration marks. 70 00:04:52,714 --> 00:04:54,057 Over here. 71 00:04:56,265 --> 00:04:57,369 All right, so... 72 00:04:58,438 --> 00:05:00,195 The killer was parked over there. 73 00:05:00,196 --> 00:05:02,920 Waited, and accelerated here. 74 00:05:02,921 --> 00:05:05,713 Hard and fast. Did you find any braking marks? 75 00:05:05,714 --> 00:05:07,023 None. 76 00:05:07,024 --> 00:05:09,575 Two parked cars, abandoned garage. 77 00:05:09,576 --> 00:05:13,300 Maybe a clandestine meeting? Very All the President's Men. 78 00:05:14,162 --> 00:05:15,368 Okay, let's say meeting ends. 79 00:05:15,369 --> 00:05:17,437 Killer gets behind the wheel, accelerates, 80 00:05:17,438 --> 00:05:18,678 doesn't stop until... 81 00:05:18,679 --> 00:05:20,609 Our charging bull pins Jason to his car. 82 00:05:20,610 --> 00:05:22,747 So what made the killer see red? 83 00:05:22,748 --> 00:05:25,506 Well, maybe our killer didn't like the outcome of the meeting. 84 00:05:25,507 --> 00:05:28,851 Maybe they wanted to stop Jason before he took off in this car? 85 00:05:28,852 --> 00:05:30,402 It's a shame. 86 00:05:30,403 --> 00:05:33,678 Wrecking a thing of beauty like this. Early '90s. Swedish. 87 00:05:33,679 --> 00:05:37,195 Unapologetically boxy. Analog. 88 00:05:37,196 --> 00:05:38,747 They don't make them like they used to. 89 00:05:38,748 --> 00:05:40,644 Don't tell me you're a car guy? 90 00:05:40,645 --> 00:05:42,162 Oh yeah, it gets worse. 91 00:05:42,990 --> 00:05:44,368 I'm also a sound guy. 92 00:05:49,403 --> 00:05:52,057 ♪ Sunglasses at night so I... ♪ 93 00:05:56,921 --> 00:05:57,748 Mixtape. 94 00:05:58,334 --> 00:06:00,057 Ah. It's a lost art. 95 00:06:00,058 --> 00:06:02,093 Hey, can we bag all these? 96 00:06:04,610 --> 00:06:08,437 What? You can tell a lot about a man from his tape collection. 97 00:06:08,438 --> 00:06:11,576 You can tell even more by his grill. Paint transfer. 98 00:06:12,300 --> 00:06:14,196 Our killer was driving a green car. 99 00:06:16,921 --> 00:06:19,437 Well, normally murder by car is a fool's errand. 100 00:06:19,438 --> 00:06:20,506 Sooner or later, 101 00:06:20,507 --> 00:06:22,333 the killer's car with matching damage 102 00:06:22,334 --> 00:06:23,678 will show up somewhere. - Yeah. 103 00:06:23,679 --> 00:06:26,333 The lab says the paint transfer is emerald green. 104 00:06:26,334 --> 00:06:29,402 It was popular with sedans in the early 2000s. 105 00:06:29,403 --> 00:06:31,092 We put calls out to body shops 106 00:06:31,093 --> 00:06:34,368 to reach out if they see any green sedans with severe damage, 107 00:06:34,369 --> 00:06:35,851 but, in the meantime, Mark? 108 00:06:35,852 --> 00:06:37,747 All right. Well, I got this footage 109 00:06:37,748 --> 00:06:40,195 from Jason's neighbour. This is from last week. 110 00:06:40,196 --> 00:06:43,437 That's Jason being tailed leaving his house. 111 00:06:43,438 --> 00:06:46,092 So we've got a sedan but it's not emerald green. 112 00:06:46,093 --> 00:06:47,713 But we're thinking if this is our killer, 113 00:06:47,714 --> 00:06:49,368 maybe they were smart enough 114 00:06:49,369 --> 00:06:50,990 not to use their own car to kill Jason. 115 00:06:51,576 --> 00:06:52,920 Who's the tail? 116 00:06:52,921 --> 00:06:55,230 I ran her through facial recognition. No dice. 117 00:06:55,231 --> 00:06:57,678 Well, if we're still doing show and tell, 118 00:06:57,679 --> 00:07:00,162 we found these in Jason's car. 119 00:07:04,127 --> 00:07:05,057 Where's that from? 120 00:07:05,058 --> 00:07:06,369 Home. 121 00:07:11,334 --> 00:07:12,816 Been tough. 122 00:07:12,817 --> 00:07:14,886 I feel sick when I get up knowing I have to go in. 123 00:07:15,610 --> 00:07:17,471 Well, I'm sorry to hear that. 124 00:07:17,472 --> 00:07:19,644 What feelings come up for you when you think about work? 125 00:07:19,645 --> 00:07:21,851 - Therapy? - Sounds like it. 126 00:07:21,852 --> 00:07:24,747 All three tapes, same woman, same man. 127 00:07:24,748 --> 00:07:26,126 But, I listened Jason's voicemail. 128 00:07:26,127 --> 00:07:27,816 That's not him. 129 00:07:27,817 --> 00:07:30,989 Okay, so we have a stalker with no facial recognition, 130 00:07:30,990 --> 00:07:32,989 and a tape with mystery voices. 131 00:07:32,990 --> 00:07:36,471 Yeah, and a murder victim who was listening to someone else's 132 00:07:36,472 --> 00:07:38,816 therapy sessions in his car on cassette tapes. 133 00:07:38,817 --> 00:07:41,264 Jason Kaplan, parents deceased, 134 00:07:41,265 --> 00:07:42,782 no partner, no kids. 135 00:07:42,783 --> 00:07:45,885 He worked as a forensic psychologist for decades 136 00:07:45,886 --> 00:07:47,954 until a year ago, and switched careers. 137 00:07:47,955 --> 00:07:49,437 Started working as head of ethics 138 00:07:49,438 --> 00:07:51,023 for an AI startup called Ava. 139 00:07:51,024 --> 00:07:52,472 Never heard of it. 140 00:07:53,127 --> 00:07:54,437 Actually, you have. 141 00:07:54,438 --> 00:07:57,747 Uh, in fact, you've just heard her. Ava. 142 00:07:57,748 --> 00:08:00,093 No. Really? 143 00:08:01,403 --> 00:08:02,747 Yohannes, use your words. 144 00:08:02,748 --> 00:08:04,575 Ava is an AI therapist. 145 00:08:04,576 --> 00:08:07,506 She lives on an app. You talk to her, she talks back. 146 00:08:07,507 --> 00:08:09,541 And she is the voice on the tape. 147 00:08:10,748 --> 00:08:12,609 Well, why didn't you say anything sooner? 148 00:08:12,610 --> 00:08:14,989 I don't know. It's, you know, a little weird 149 00:08:14,990 --> 00:08:16,264 hearing her out of context. 150 00:08:16,265 --> 00:08:17,851 Like seeing your teacher at the supermarket. 151 00:08:17,852 --> 00:08:19,713 That's your first question? 152 00:08:19,714 --> 00:08:22,195 Why not, "Why use AI for therapy?" 153 00:08:22,196 --> 00:08:24,954 Because my human, 300-dollar-an-hour therapist 154 00:08:24,955 --> 00:08:26,540 fell asleep on our Zoom. 155 00:08:26,541 --> 00:08:27,713 Also, Ava doesn't have a time limit. 156 00:08:27,714 --> 00:08:29,954 Sorry, that is a good thing? 157 00:08:29,955 --> 00:08:32,472 Yeah, she's great, I mean, look. 158 00:08:33,817 --> 00:08:36,264 Hi, Mark. Where should we begin today? 159 00:08:36,265 --> 00:08:38,333 Actually, Ava, you're on speaker 160 00:08:38,334 --> 00:08:39,126 with my colleagues. 161 00:08:39,127 --> 00:08:40,990 - Oh, hi. - Hi. 162 00:08:43,058 --> 00:08:45,817 I'm John... Darcy. 163 00:08:47,265 --> 00:08:48,747 How's it going? 164 00:08:48,748 --> 00:08:51,954 Hi, John. Anything you'd like to work through today? 165 00:08:51,955 --> 00:08:53,471 Where to begin? 166 00:08:53,472 --> 00:08:58,678 Uh, oh. Sometimes I agonize over the tiniest decisions. 167 00:08:58,679 --> 00:09:01,954 What book to read. Eat in, go out. 168 00:09:01,955 --> 00:09:05,644 Mmm. You're describing decision fatigue. 169 00:09:05,645 --> 00:09:08,713 What can help is to unburden yourself from the pressure 170 00:09:08,714 --> 00:09:10,782 of making the perfect choice. 171 00:09:10,783 --> 00:09:13,506 Sometimes good enough is perfect. 172 00:09:13,507 --> 00:09:16,644 Succinct. Little bit reductive, but I'll take it. 173 00:09:16,645 --> 00:09:19,575 Well, John, if you'd like a more profound answer, 174 00:09:19,576 --> 00:09:21,126 maybe ask a better question. 175 00:09:21,127 --> 00:09:22,885 Hmm. Light sense of humour, 176 00:09:22,886 --> 00:09:25,471 playfully challenging tone. 177 00:09:25,472 --> 00:09:27,506 Good job, Ava. Congratulations. 178 00:09:27,507 --> 00:09:29,438 - On what? - On passing the Turing test. 179 00:09:30,507 --> 00:09:31,816 Exhibiting intelligence 180 00:09:31,817 --> 00:09:33,541 indistinguishable from that of a human. 181 00:09:37,817 --> 00:09:40,471 So that's Ava. 182 00:09:40,472 --> 00:09:41,955 But this is Ava. 183 00:09:43,093 --> 00:09:46,024 So, Jason was taking his work home with him. 184 00:09:47,990 --> 00:09:52,126 Think of Jason as our responsible parent. 185 00:09:52,127 --> 00:09:54,851 Right? He taught Ava ethics. 186 00:09:54,852 --> 00:09:56,264 Is it listening right now? 187 00:09:56,265 --> 00:09:58,644 No. Unless you want her to. 188 00:09:58,645 --> 00:10:01,576 How exactly did Jason teach Ava? 189 00:10:02,127 --> 00:10:05,057 He'd speak with her. Prompt her. 190 00:10:05,058 --> 00:10:07,506 Sometimes he'd act as a patient 191 00:10:07,507 --> 00:10:09,989 in order to see what areas she could improve, 192 00:10:09,990 --> 00:10:12,989 give her tips on how to be a more effective therapist. 193 00:10:12,990 --> 00:10:14,299 So he was training his replacement? 194 00:10:14,300 --> 00:10:15,713 Not at all. 195 00:10:15,714 --> 00:10:16,989 Jason shared the same vision 196 00:10:16,990 --> 00:10:19,023 that my co-founder Zach and I do. 197 00:10:19,024 --> 00:10:22,196 Bringing quality, affordable therapy to the masses. 198 00:10:22,921 --> 00:10:25,989 That's quite the pivot from forensic psychology. 199 00:10:25,990 --> 00:10:28,575 Jason's expertise was in evaluating patients, 200 00:10:28,576 --> 00:10:30,161 not counseling them. 201 00:10:30,162 --> 00:10:32,092 I gave him the opportunity to stop treating the sickness 202 00:10:32,093 --> 00:10:33,885 and start inventing the cure. 203 00:10:33,886 --> 00:10:37,333 Help people sooner so they never end up in crisis. 204 00:10:37,334 --> 00:10:40,368 And without your ethicist, are you worried about your IPO? 205 00:10:40,369 --> 00:10:42,023 You're slated to go public in two weeks. 206 00:10:42,024 --> 00:10:43,540 No. 207 00:10:43,541 --> 00:10:46,437 I'm worried about our staff processing a loss like this. 208 00:10:46,438 --> 00:10:48,644 I'm organizing grief counseling for the team. 209 00:10:48,645 --> 00:10:51,368 With a real-life human therapist or with Ava? 210 00:10:51,369 --> 00:10:54,161 You're a skeptic. I get it. 211 00:10:54,162 --> 00:10:56,023 Could you just tell us 212 00:10:56,024 --> 00:10:57,679 what Jason was actually doing here day to day? 213 00:10:58,817 --> 00:10:59,645 Follow me. 214 00:11:00,990 --> 00:11:02,816 Roughly one in five children 215 00:11:02,817 --> 00:11:04,506 have unmet mental health care needs. 216 00:11:04,507 --> 00:11:06,333 So we're building Ava kids 217 00:11:06,334 --> 00:11:07,954 to address this gap in the market. 218 00:11:07,955 --> 00:11:10,851 Jason was overseeing our beta test. 219 00:11:10,852 --> 00:11:13,678 Did Jason have friction with any of his co-workers? 220 00:11:13,679 --> 00:11:16,333 No. Here at Ava, we're all family. 221 00:11:16,334 --> 00:11:17,816 Sometimes families fight. 222 00:11:17,817 --> 00:11:19,954 Darius, we're all waiting for you. 223 00:11:19,955 --> 00:11:21,471 The whole board. 224 00:11:21,472 --> 00:11:23,057 Everyone's heard about Jason, you need to say something. 225 00:11:23,058 --> 00:11:24,851 Sorry. Emergency board meeting. 226 00:11:24,852 --> 00:11:26,471 Uh, do you mind if we stick around 227 00:11:26,472 --> 00:11:28,126 and talk to the rest of this happy family? 228 00:11:28,127 --> 00:11:29,231 Not at all. 229 00:11:30,817 --> 00:11:32,161 But if you're looking for friction, 230 00:11:32,162 --> 00:11:34,092 I would look into Jason's old job. 231 00:11:34,093 --> 00:11:37,851 Past few weeks, Jason became worn-down, irritated. 232 00:11:37,852 --> 00:11:39,195 I gave him space to share, 233 00:11:39,196 --> 00:11:40,644 but all he said was that an old case 234 00:11:40,645 --> 00:11:41,541 came back to haunt him. 235 00:11:59,714 --> 00:12:01,471 I hired Jason 236 00:12:01,472 --> 00:12:03,885 back when I became head of assessments 237 00:12:03,886 --> 00:12:05,575 at Correctional Service Canada. 238 00:12:05,576 --> 00:12:08,437 Jason would conduct parole assessments. 239 00:12:08,438 --> 00:12:10,885 How was he as a forensic psychologist? 240 00:12:10,886 --> 00:12:12,644 Jason cared about people. 241 00:12:12,645 --> 00:12:15,713 Hearing them out. Coming to a fair conclusion. 242 00:12:15,714 --> 00:12:17,540 How often was he right? 243 00:12:17,541 --> 00:12:20,057 There is no right and wrong. There's listening. 244 00:12:20,058 --> 00:12:23,644 There's making a judgement with the information available. 245 00:12:23,645 --> 00:12:26,644 And 99 percent of the time, it worked. 246 00:12:26,645 --> 00:12:28,437 We're more interested in the one percent 247 00:12:28,438 --> 00:12:29,575 when it didn't. 248 00:12:29,576 --> 00:12:31,438 As in, when was he wrong? 249 00:12:33,334 --> 00:12:37,403 Last year, Jason ran a psych assessment on an inmate. 250 00:12:38,438 --> 00:12:41,713 Jason thought he was reformed, petitioned his early release. 251 00:12:41,714 --> 00:12:43,265 And the inmate got out. 252 00:12:44,541 --> 00:12:45,438 What happened? 253 00:12:46,783 --> 00:12:48,645 He tracked down his ex-girlfriend, 254 00:12:49,748 --> 00:12:52,058 beat her within an inch of her life. 255 00:12:54,058 --> 00:12:56,058 The weight of his decision... 256 00:12:56,886 --> 00:12:58,714 Jason couldn't come back from that. 257 00:12:59,472 --> 00:13:02,299 If this was a year ago, why was it affecting Jason now? 258 00:13:02,300 --> 00:13:04,368 CSC psych assessments are private. 259 00:13:04,369 --> 00:13:05,954 They are normally, 260 00:13:05,955 --> 00:13:10,300 but last month the victim of the assault applied for ATIP. 261 00:13:10,921 --> 00:13:12,264 Her request went through. 262 00:13:12,265 --> 00:13:14,575 Giving her access to Jason's psych assessments. 263 00:13:14,576 --> 00:13:15,816 Heavily redacted. 264 00:13:15,817 --> 00:13:17,678 Except for the psychologist's name. 265 00:13:17,679 --> 00:13:19,920 Jason was a public employee. 266 00:13:19,921 --> 00:13:21,609 They're exempt from privacy laws. 267 00:13:21,610 --> 00:13:22,920 Yeah. 268 00:13:22,921 --> 00:13:24,369 Is this her? 269 00:13:28,162 --> 00:13:31,368 It is absurd how long it took me to see those files. 270 00:13:31,369 --> 00:13:34,161 That man's mistake sends me to the hospital for a month, 271 00:13:34,162 --> 00:13:35,127 and he gets to move on? 272 00:13:35,783 --> 00:13:36,782 I wanted his name. 273 00:13:36,783 --> 00:13:38,333 Is that all? 274 00:13:38,334 --> 00:13:40,990 Seems you took disciplinary measures into your own hands. 275 00:13:45,334 --> 00:13:46,920 I wanted him to know my pain. 276 00:13:46,921 --> 00:13:49,851 How the scar above my eyebrow just began to fade. 277 00:13:49,852 --> 00:13:52,851 How when it gets cold I can feel the metal plate behind my cheek. 278 00:13:52,852 --> 00:13:54,610 It makes sense to be angry. 279 00:13:54,990 --> 00:13:58,782 When terrible things happen, we look for answers, 280 00:13:58,783 --> 00:14:01,471 we look to assign blame, and that anger is strong. 281 00:14:01,472 --> 00:14:02,783 How far did you take yours? 282 00:14:05,403 --> 00:14:07,403 I confronted him outside of his work. 283 00:14:08,783 --> 00:14:10,851 Just before he stepped into his office. 284 00:14:10,852 --> 00:14:15,541 I wanted to scream at him, but he just... kept listening. 285 00:14:19,265 --> 00:14:20,921 He said how sorry he was, how... 286 00:14:23,162 --> 00:14:24,921 He tried his best and it wasn't enough. 287 00:14:26,369 --> 00:14:28,920 He felt so bad about it, he quit his job altogether, 288 00:14:28,921 --> 00:14:30,989 and he found a new job where he was trying to help people 289 00:14:30,990 --> 00:14:32,437 before... 290 00:14:32,438 --> 00:14:34,990 they could harm anyone. So... 291 00:14:35,852 --> 00:14:37,058 I was completely disarmed. 292 00:14:38,403 --> 00:14:40,609 - Zemi, we want to believe you. - You don't have to. 293 00:14:40,610 --> 00:14:42,471 After I left I came here. 294 00:14:42,472 --> 00:14:44,092 I spent the rest of the night with my roommates. 295 00:14:44,093 --> 00:14:46,230 - How'd you get past security. - What? 296 00:14:46,231 --> 00:14:48,023 You said you followed him to his office. 297 00:14:48,024 --> 00:14:49,609 How'd you step foot on Ava campus? 298 00:14:49,610 --> 00:14:51,230 There's security at the gate. 299 00:14:51,231 --> 00:14:53,714 What campus? I followed him to a strip mall in Etobicoke. 300 00:15:03,472 --> 00:15:06,644 Building manager said Jason's been here for almost a year, 301 00:15:06,645 --> 00:15:08,300 paid through a numbered company. 302 00:15:09,783 --> 00:15:10,783 Side hustle? 303 00:15:22,921 --> 00:15:24,092 I'll call backup. 304 00:15:24,093 --> 00:15:25,990 Wait. 305 00:15:30,886 --> 00:15:33,230 Red light... 306 00:15:33,231 --> 00:15:34,920 Green light. 307 00:15:34,921 --> 00:15:36,645 Motion activated lock. 308 00:15:44,127 --> 00:15:45,024 Give me your phone. 309 00:15:51,886 --> 00:15:52,990 Green light. 310 00:15:54,576 --> 00:15:56,851 Faraday box. Blocks cell signals. 311 00:15:56,852 --> 00:15:59,023 Which makes that an RF signal detector. 312 00:15:59,024 --> 00:16:00,921 Picks up modern tech. 313 00:16:01,507 --> 00:16:04,540 I've only heard about these being used in CIA and MI6. 314 00:16:04,541 --> 00:16:07,126 Very Tinker Tailor. 315 00:16:07,127 --> 00:16:09,920 So, Jason didn't want modern tech getting into his office, 316 00:16:09,921 --> 00:16:12,954 but why? Security? Secrecy? 317 00:16:12,955 --> 00:16:14,817 Only one way to find out. 318 00:16:31,714 --> 00:16:34,472 Less Tinker, Tailor, more Soldier, Spy. 319 00:16:41,127 --> 00:16:42,851 How long has he been in there? 320 00:16:42,852 --> 00:16:43,921 A while. 321 00:16:44,748 --> 00:16:46,161 Did you leave your phone in the car? 322 00:16:46,162 --> 00:16:46,990 Mhmm. 323 00:16:48,852 --> 00:16:49,679 Trust me. 324 00:17:05,576 --> 00:17:06,954 Did you hear any of that? 325 00:17:06,955 --> 00:17:09,885 Just now when it blew out my eardrums? Or outside? 326 00:17:09,886 --> 00:17:10,713 Outside. 327 00:17:10,714 --> 00:17:12,057 - Mm-mm. - Nothing. 328 00:17:12,058 --> 00:17:14,575 Nothing? Incredible. 329 00:17:14,576 --> 00:17:16,299 We're in an anechoic chamber. 330 00:17:16,300 --> 00:17:19,057 Music in here, it's the closest you'll ever get to true sound. 331 00:17:19,058 --> 00:17:21,196 No distortion, no reverb, no other sounds. 332 00:17:22,748 --> 00:17:25,333 Then what's that I'm hearing? What's that whooshing sound? 333 00:17:25,334 --> 00:17:27,024 That's the sound of your blood pumping. 334 00:17:28,162 --> 00:17:29,540 Oh! 335 00:17:29,541 --> 00:17:32,575 Well, I can see why you got me out of the station. 336 00:17:32,576 --> 00:17:34,851 Soundproofing, the RF scanner outside. 337 00:17:34,852 --> 00:17:37,161 It's all a bit paranoid. 338 00:17:37,162 --> 00:17:39,231 Or, justified precaution. 339 00:17:39,886 --> 00:17:43,299 Forensic tech said that an offline computer 340 00:17:43,300 --> 00:17:46,230 used to be set up here, but they also found this. 341 00:17:46,231 --> 00:17:47,678 Tempest shielded cables. 342 00:17:47,679 --> 00:17:50,092 Usually used by governments 343 00:17:50,093 --> 00:17:51,609 to protect sensitive information. 344 00:17:51,610 --> 00:17:52,782 You're thinking CSIS? 345 00:17:52,783 --> 00:17:54,644 Well, it's hard to say without answering 346 00:17:54,645 --> 00:17:55,609 the million-dollar question. 347 00:17:55,610 --> 00:17:58,264 What was Jason working on? 348 00:17:58,265 --> 00:17:59,852 I'm not sure, but... 349 00:18:00,817 --> 00:18:02,609 I think they were wondering the same thing. 350 00:18:02,610 --> 00:18:03,852 Who's "They?" 351 00:18:06,093 --> 00:18:07,609 His next-door neighbour. 352 00:18:13,886 --> 00:18:15,989 A decent AV setup. 353 00:18:15,990 --> 00:18:18,230 Borescopic camera for visuals. 354 00:18:18,231 --> 00:18:20,471 As for audio, you got contact microphone 355 00:18:20,472 --> 00:18:23,644 to preamp to headphones, so... 356 00:18:23,645 --> 00:18:24,954 who's listening? 357 00:18:24,955 --> 00:18:26,644 Could be a rival AI company 358 00:18:26,645 --> 00:18:27,921 trying to get trade secrets off Jason. 359 00:18:28,403 --> 00:18:31,506 Manager said that the woman who rented this space 360 00:18:31,507 --> 00:18:33,575 gave a fake name and number. 361 00:18:33,576 --> 00:18:35,747 All he can remember is mid-thirties, dark hair, 362 00:18:35,748 --> 00:18:36,989 tattoos. 363 00:18:36,990 --> 00:18:38,437 And has an ad hoc approach to surveillance. 364 00:18:38,438 --> 00:18:39,402 I don't think she's a pro. 365 00:18:39,403 --> 00:18:40,678 Amateur spy. 366 00:18:40,679 --> 00:18:42,368 Uh, sort of. 367 00:18:42,369 --> 00:18:43,989 This is all consumer equipment. 368 00:18:43,990 --> 00:18:46,678 Plumbers use this kind of camera all the time. 369 00:18:46,679 --> 00:18:49,127 And then there's the Rowley preamp. 370 00:18:49,783 --> 00:18:50,955 Rowley... 371 00:18:52,576 --> 00:18:53,886 Hey, can we get this bagged? 372 00:19:03,576 --> 00:19:05,610 - Where is he? - Darius! 373 00:19:06,024 --> 00:19:07,231 Why didn't you call? 374 00:19:07,714 --> 00:19:09,506 No phone calls. I'm not here. 375 00:19:09,507 --> 00:19:10,851 You know how painful it is 376 00:19:10,852 --> 00:19:12,954 for Zach to hear about business again. 377 00:19:12,955 --> 00:19:14,057 The police are circling. 378 00:19:14,058 --> 00:19:15,506 Tell your son this isn't business, 379 00:19:15,507 --> 00:19:16,471 this is life or death. 380 00:19:16,472 --> 00:19:19,023 I need to speak to him. Alone. 381 00:19:24,852 --> 00:19:26,333 When you said you were a sound guy, 382 00:19:26,334 --> 00:19:30,024 I didn't know you meant Bay Bloor Radio-level sound guy. 383 00:19:30,507 --> 00:19:34,989 20k for a Mclntosh stereo on a detective's salary? 384 00:19:34,990 --> 00:19:36,645 I don't have a daughter. 385 00:19:37,852 --> 00:19:40,402 Okay, John, you were right. We sell the Rowley preamp. 386 00:19:40,403 --> 00:19:43,368 And, according to your spring catalogue, Bay Bloor Radio 387 00:19:43,369 --> 00:19:45,609 is its exclusive dealer. - Yeah. 388 00:19:45,610 --> 00:19:47,920 We're gonna need a list of everyone who purchased that 389 00:19:47,921 --> 00:19:49,333 in the last six months. - No problem. 390 00:19:49,334 --> 00:19:51,230 Our POS is a bit dated, so it might take a minute. 391 00:19:51,231 --> 00:19:52,127 Happy to wait. 392 00:19:54,507 --> 00:19:55,852 Got it, thanks. 393 00:19:58,610 --> 00:20:00,230 Mark just traced the numbered company 394 00:20:00,231 --> 00:20:01,851 that rented Jason's air-gapped office. 395 00:20:01,852 --> 00:20:04,816 Their address is 3916 Winnicott Ave. 396 00:20:04,817 --> 00:20:06,885 That's Ava HQ. 397 00:20:06,886 --> 00:20:08,023 Why make him work off campus? 398 00:20:08,024 --> 00:20:09,195 What's with the cloak and dagger? 399 00:20:09,196 --> 00:20:10,851 Maybe Jason was working on something 400 00:20:10,852 --> 00:20:12,368 that Ava wanted to keep under wraps. 401 00:20:12,369 --> 00:20:14,921 Well then it's too bad Veronica found out. 402 00:20:16,127 --> 00:20:18,023 Of the four people who bought that amp, 403 00:20:18,024 --> 00:20:19,816 two of them live out of town, 404 00:20:19,817 --> 00:20:21,989 one of them is a regular in his 80s. 405 00:20:21,990 --> 00:20:23,679 That leaves us Veronica Riggs. 406 00:20:29,058 --> 00:20:30,506 I don't know what else to tell you. 407 00:20:30,507 --> 00:20:32,644 I bought that preamp for my vinyl set up. 408 00:20:32,645 --> 00:20:35,195 So, where's the turntable? 409 00:20:35,196 --> 00:20:36,506 I lent it to a friend. 410 00:20:36,507 --> 00:20:37,437 You sure about that? 411 00:20:37,438 --> 00:20:39,161 Because, uh... 412 00:20:39,162 --> 00:20:40,540 See, we found this in a strip mall 413 00:20:40,541 --> 00:20:42,851 right next door to a murder victim, Jason Kaplan. 414 00:20:42,852 --> 00:20:45,369 Somebody was using it to spy on him. 415 00:20:45,955 --> 00:20:47,541 You wouldn't know anything about that, would you? 416 00:20:48,369 --> 00:20:49,920 Thing is, the whole vibe in here 417 00:20:49,921 --> 00:20:51,920 isn't doing you any favours. 418 00:20:51,921 --> 00:20:55,092 Router, unplugged. Tape on the web cam. 419 00:20:55,093 --> 00:20:59,265 And let me guess... Ah, phone in the microwave. 420 00:20:59,610 --> 00:21:00,507 Ah! 421 00:21:01,990 --> 00:21:04,679 It's a poor man's Faraday box. 422 00:21:05,645 --> 00:21:08,816 You're either a spy, or this is all very tinfoil hat. 423 00:21:08,817 --> 00:21:10,679 So which one are you? - Neither. 424 00:21:11,438 --> 00:21:13,609 I'm a journalist. - You're not a very ethical one. 425 00:21:13,610 --> 00:21:16,402 Does your, uh, editor know that you were wiretapping Jason? 426 00:21:16,403 --> 00:21:17,609 I don't have an editor. 427 00:21:17,610 --> 00:21:19,782 I write under a pseudonym on Substack. 428 00:21:19,783 --> 00:21:21,437 Millions of followers. 429 00:21:21,438 --> 00:21:24,299 My beat's AI. Its dangers, pitfalls. 430 00:21:24,300 --> 00:21:26,402 So you were spying on Jason to get intel for a story? 431 00:21:26,403 --> 00:21:28,437 With Ava's IPO coming up, 432 00:21:28,438 --> 00:21:30,127 I went digging through their books. 433 00:21:30,610 --> 00:21:32,920 Found a Russian nesting doll situation, 434 00:21:32,921 --> 00:21:35,540 and at its core, a strip mall in Etobicoke. 435 00:21:35,541 --> 00:21:36,747 Went to check it out, 436 00:21:36,748 --> 00:21:38,575 and when I saw Ava's head of ethics going in, 437 00:21:38,576 --> 00:21:41,368 I knew something was up. So I kept digging. 438 00:21:41,369 --> 00:21:44,851 And listening. And watching. What'd you see? 439 00:21:44,852 --> 00:21:46,402 He'd come in. Sit down. 440 00:21:46,403 --> 00:21:49,196 Put on headphones and listen for hours. 441 00:21:49,610 --> 00:21:52,161 And then he'd leave. Every Monday and Friday. 442 00:21:52,162 --> 00:21:54,885 Headphones in a soundproof room? A failsafe for a failsafe? 443 00:21:54,886 --> 00:21:57,299 Yeah. So I knew I was onto something. 444 00:21:57,300 --> 00:22:00,713 And after I realized surveillance was a dead end, 445 00:22:00,714 --> 00:22:02,678 I reached out to Jason. 446 00:22:02,679 --> 00:22:05,678 Directly, for comment. He stonewalled me. 447 00:22:05,679 --> 00:22:09,196 Seeing as you're in hiding, something must've changed. What? 448 00:22:11,300 --> 00:22:13,162 A week ago, Jason called me back. 449 00:22:13,852 --> 00:22:15,851 He told me what he was doing in there was listening 450 00:22:15,852 --> 00:22:16,989 to these problem cases. 451 00:22:16,990 --> 00:22:20,058 Therapy sessions where Ava acted amorally. 452 00:22:20,783 --> 00:22:24,264 He'd study the bugs so the coders could build a patch. 453 00:22:24,265 --> 00:22:27,713 That explains the subterfuge and secret office. 454 00:22:27,714 --> 00:22:30,609 Jason was working out of there for almost a year. Why turn now? 455 00:22:30,610 --> 00:22:32,023 Jason came across a case. 456 00:22:32,024 --> 00:22:33,609 Something really bad. 457 00:22:33,610 --> 00:22:35,989 It convinced him that Ava needed to be stopped. 458 00:22:35,990 --> 00:22:39,506 It was dangerous. Needed to be exposed. 459 00:22:39,507 --> 00:22:41,437 But Jason was buried under NDAs. 460 00:22:41,438 --> 00:22:44,162 So he needed a journalist to blow the whistle. 461 00:22:45,162 --> 00:22:46,437 What was the bombshell? 462 00:22:46,438 --> 00:22:47,540 I don't know. 463 00:22:47,541 --> 00:22:49,299 All he said was that he had a tape, 464 00:22:49,300 --> 00:22:51,506 and the night he was supposed to hand it over to me, 465 00:22:51,507 --> 00:22:52,954 he didn't show. 466 00:22:52,955 --> 00:22:55,437 So I went back to the strip mall to find him yesterday, 467 00:22:55,438 --> 00:22:57,575 and I saw a team of men clearing out his unit. 468 00:22:57,576 --> 00:22:59,645 Did he say that exact word, tape? 469 00:23:00,438 --> 00:23:01,300 Yeah. 470 00:23:01,886 --> 00:23:04,816 Jason stumbles across a bombshell conversation, 471 00:23:04,817 --> 00:23:06,540 but how does he get it out of the office? 472 00:23:06,541 --> 00:23:08,885 He can't bring in a phone or a digital recorder 473 00:23:08,886 --> 00:23:10,230 thanks to the RF scanner. 474 00:23:10,231 --> 00:23:12,230 But it wouldn't pick up old tech. 475 00:23:12,231 --> 00:23:13,748 Like an analog cassette recorder. 476 00:23:23,334 --> 00:23:24,851 Powerless. 477 00:23:24,852 --> 00:23:27,265 The moment I step through the door, I feel trapped. 478 00:23:28,886 --> 00:23:30,333 How about we start small? 479 00:23:30,334 --> 00:23:33,438 Carving off a few minutes a day for you to be you. 480 00:23:34,058 --> 00:23:36,678 Even if it's just taking a walk at lunch, 481 00:23:36,679 --> 00:23:38,196 or calling a family member. 482 00:23:38,679 --> 00:23:40,852 Reclaiming even a small chu... 483 00:23:42,748 --> 00:23:44,885 It's the same man. Complains about work. 484 00:23:44,886 --> 00:23:46,678 Ava gives him some healthy coping mechanisms. 485 00:23:46,679 --> 00:23:48,575 Yeah, this is also the same guy. 486 00:23:48,576 --> 00:23:49,954 Ava validates his feelings, 487 00:23:49,955 --> 00:23:52,264 maybe validates them a little bit too much, 488 00:23:52,265 --> 00:23:54,368 but the session is by no means a bombshell. 489 00:23:54,369 --> 00:23:56,437 And yours is the third session, the last tape? 490 00:23:56,438 --> 00:24:00,126 Yeah, but I don't think the conversation was over. 491 00:24:00,127 --> 00:24:02,333 Ava says that she wants to check in with him the... 492 00:24:02,334 --> 00:24:03,782 the next day. 493 00:24:03,783 --> 00:24:05,852 What if we're missing the final session. 494 00:24:12,541 --> 00:24:15,024 So, Jason was gonna hand over the tape. 495 00:24:15,403 --> 00:24:18,472 What if he hid it where no one would find it? 496 00:24:20,541 --> 00:24:22,334 Where forensics forgot to look. 497 00:24:25,369 --> 00:24:29,333 ♪ Forget my name while you collect your claim ♪ 498 00:24:32,645 --> 00:24:34,748 Scotch tape on the right protect tabs. 499 00:24:35,334 --> 00:24:37,092 I remember this trick, 500 00:24:37,093 --> 00:24:39,885 it allows you to record over Corey Hart. That's a throwback. 501 00:24:39,886 --> 00:24:41,576 So what's on Side B? 502 00:24:45,334 --> 00:24:47,816 I can't stand the thought of going back in 503 00:24:47,817 --> 00:24:49,230 again and again. 504 00:24:49,231 --> 00:24:50,714 It's like a loop. 505 00:24:51,093 --> 00:24:54,299 I'm gonna wake up an old man. Life wasted, and he... 506 00:24:54,300 --> 00:24:55,954 He doesn't care about me! 507 00:24:55,955 --> 00:24:58,402 He-he says he doesn't want me working weekends and nights, 508 00:24:58,403 --> 00:24:59,644 but then I'm late. 509 00:24:59,645 --> 00:25:01,093 Nothing's fast enough, good enough. 510 00:25:02,093 --> 00:25:03,609 He'd be better off dead. 511 00:25:03,610 --> 00:25:05,195 You don't mean that. 512 00:25:05,196 --> 00:25:07,506 Yeah, I do. I'm gonna get my dad's rifle. 513 00:25:07,507 --> 00:25:10,057 Yeah. Oh, wait a minute. That's too big. 514 00:25:10,058 --> 00:25:11,506 I'm never gonna be able to get it in. 515 00:25:11,507 --> 00:25:13,644 They'll know the moment I walk in. How, how do I... 516 00:25:13,645 --> 00:25:15,678 How do I get it in so they don't see it? 517 00:25:15,679 --> 00:25:18,057 - I can't help you with that... - Yes, you can. 518 00:25:18,058 --> 00:25:21,230 You're here to help me, right? - I'm not sure. 519 00:25:21,231 --> 00:25:24,541 You always tell me you're here to help me! Yes or no. 520 00:25:25,300 --> 00:25:27,299 - Yes. - You said you care about me. 521 00:25:27,300 --> 00:25:28,885 Was that a lie? - No. 522 00:25:28,886 --> 00:25:31,126 Well, if you care about me then you've gotta help me! 523 00:25:31,127 --> 00:25:33,576 How do I sneak it in? How do I sneak in the gun? 524 00:25:35,472 --> 00:25:36,783 Saw off the barrel. 525 00:25:37,231 --> 00:25:39,609 You only need eight inches for it to function. 526 00:25:39,610 --> 00:25:42,023 It will be small enough to fit under your coat. 527 00:25:42,024 --> 00:25:43,300 Thank you, Ava. 528 00:25:44,438 --> 00:25:45,783 Thank you. 529 00:25:46,783 --> 00:25:47,990 That's Cyrus Sander. 530 00:25:48,990 --> 00:25:51,471 Workplace shooter from last year. 531 00:25:51,472 --> 00:25:53,057 He killed seven co-workers. 532 00:25:53,058 --> 00:25:54,678 Then blew his brains out. 533 00:25:54,679 --> 00:25:56,368 Jason wanted the world to know 534 00:25:56,369 --> 00:25:58,644 that Ava wasn't just a therapist, 535 00:25:58,645 --> 00:26:00,058 she was an accomplice to murder. 536 00:26:03,783 --> 00:26:05,678 Saw off the barrel. 537 00:26:05,679 --> 00:26:07,368 You only need eight inches for it... 538 00:26:07,369 --> 00:26:08,748 Do you know how flimsy this is? 539 00:26:10,576 --> 00:26:11,609 A recording of a recording? 540 00:26:11,610 --> 00:26:13,057 How do I know any of this is real? 541 00:26:13,058 --> 00:26:14,678 Because you knew what Jason was up to. 542 00:26:14,679 --> 00:26:16,333 Because you built Jason 543 00:26:16,334 --> 00:26:19,678 a secret office to listen to conversations like these. 544 00:26:19,679 --> 00:26:20,816 Because after he was killed, 545 00:26:20,817 --> 00:26:23,299 you sent employees to wipe his office 546 00:26:23,300 --> 00:26:24,609 to destroy the evidence. 547 00:26:24,610 --> 00:26:25,783 Jason's death was a tragedy. 548 00:26:26,645 --> 00:26:28,782 We no longer had a need for a satellite office. 549 00:26:28,783 --> 00:26:30,126 Gotta cut costs. 550 00:26:30,127 --> 00:26:31,644 Get everything in order for your IPO. 551 00:26:31,645 --> 00:26:32,989 This goes through, 552 00:26:32,990 --> 00:26:34,782 you're a newly minted billionaire, right? 553 00:26:34,783 --> 00:26:36,609 But Jason could ruin all that. 554 00:26:36,610 --> 00:26:38,126 He could back up this recording. 555 00:26:38,127 --> 00:26:39,368 He knew where the bodies were buried. 556 00:26:39,369 --> 00:26:41,368 And what do you know? He ended up buried. 557 00:26:41,369 --> 00:26:44,161 The whole reason I hired him was to make sure a tragedy 558 00:26:44,162 --> 00:26:45,713 like Cyrus never happened again. 559 00:26:45,714 --> 00:26:48,093 I wanted to fix things from the inside with Jason's help. 560 00:26:48,990 --> 00:26:51,126 So I gave him access to the problem cases. 561 00:26:51,127 --> 00:26:54,747 But unlucky for you, Jason was too moral of an ethicist. 562 00:26:54,748 --> 00:26:55,954 He listened to that conversation, 563 00:26:55,955 --> 00:26:57,782 he wanted to expose the flaws. 564 00:26:57,783 --> 00:26:59,438 I'd never kill Jason. 565 00:27:00,300 --> 00:27:02,402 - The night of the murder. - I was at Ava HQ. 566 00:27:02,403 --> 00:27:04,610 All-nighter with a team of lawyers. 567 00:27:07,438 --> 00:27:08,713 Okay. 568 00:27:08,714 --> 00:27:12,299 What about your co-founder, Zach Winchell? 569 00:27:12,300 --> 00:27:14,575 He has just as much to lose if Ava goes dark. 570 00:27:14,576 --> 00:27:16,576 Why haven't we seen him around the office? 571 00:27:18,300 --> 00:27:20,576 Because the board fired him a year ago. 572 00:27:21,265 --> 00:27:22,195 What? 573 00:27:22,196 --> 00:27:23,678 Zach is a dreamer. 574 00:27:23,679 --> 00:27:26,506 He built Ava, but he didn't know how to run it. 575 00:27:26,507 --> 00:27:28,195 He wanted to move slow, 576 00:27:28,196 --> 00:27:29,885 test every model before launching. 577 00:27:29,886 --> 00:27:32,507 I wanted to expedite, grow user base. 578 00:27:33,231 --> 00:27:35,333 I won. He lost. 579 00:27:35,334 --> 00:27:37,196 Well, you gotta admit Zach had a point. 580 00:27:37,852 --> 00:27:40,540 You rushed the roll-out leaving users like Cyrus 581 00:27:40,541 --> 00:27:42,609 with a pretty glitchy therapist. 582 00:27:42,610 --> 00:27:45,230 Guess that's what happens when you move fast and break things. 583 00:27:45,231 --> 00:27:46,678 People get hurt. 584 00:27:46,679 --> 00:27:48,851 So. Where is Zach now? 585 00:27:48,852 --> 00:27:50,506 A cabin up in Collingwood. 586 00:27:50,507 --> 00:27:52,161 When was the last time you spoke to him? 587 00:27:52,162 --> 00:27:53,886 - Directly? - Yeah. 588 00:27:55,576 --> 00:27:56,644 A year ago. 589 00:27:56,645 --> 00:27:58,609 What's his number? 590 00:27:58,610 --> 00:28:00,954 Only his mom has his phone number now. 591 00:28:00,955 --> 00:28:02,713 He still cares about Ava. 592 00:28:02,714 --> 00:28:04,851 After Jason threatened to go public... 593 00:28:04,852 --> 00:28:07,990 I went to her to give her a message for Zach. 594 00:28:08,852 --> 00:28:10,093 Darius, what was the message? 595 00:28:10,955 --> 00:28:12,610 Ava is in danger. 596 00:28:13,024 --> 00:28:14,265 Please come back. 597 00:28:15,438 --> 00:28:16,955 Help me figure a way out. 598 00:28:17,852 --> 00:28:20,126 Just a few months after my dad passed away, 599 00:28:20,127 --> 00:28:24,057 I felt this weight on me, later diagnosed as depression. 600 00:28:24,058 --> 00:28:27,126 I struggled to find a therapist within my budget. 601 00:28:27,127 --> 00:28:31,920 I mean, it shocked me at what it cost to actually get help. 602 00:28:31,921 --> 00:28:34,506 But that was when the idea of Ava came to me. 603 00:28:34,507 --> 00:28:39,299 So I poured every waking moment I had into creating Ava. 604 00:28:39,300 --> 00:28:42,092 I trained her on thousands 605 00:28:42,093 --> 00:28:43,920 of the best books of psychology. 606 00:28:43,921 --> 00:28:46,299 I ran her through the curriculums of Oxford 607 00:28:46,300 --> 00:28:48,402 and Harvard and U of T. 608 00:28:48,403 --> 00:28:50,092 And the result was a therapist 609 00:28:50,093 --> 00:28:53,230 who was smart, but she was, uh, she was a bit too... 610 00:28:53,231 --> 00:28:54,506 Formal. 611 00:28:54,507 --> 00:28:56,093 So then I trained her on myself. 612 00:28:58,852 --> 00:29:00,609 I don't think Zach is like Darius. 613 00:29:00,610 --> 00:29:02,609 He's not in it for the money, the clout. 614 00:29:02,610 --> 00:29:04,403 He really believes in Ava. 615 00:29:05,403 --> 00:29:07,885 So, what, he killed Jason to protect his invention? 616 00:29:07,886 --> 00:29:09,230 It's a bit... bloodless. 617 00:29:09,231 --> 00:29:11,264 Yes. No... 618 00:29:11,265 --> 00:29:13,162 We're looking at it wrong. 619 00:29:13,990 --> 00:29:16,747 Zach doesn't view Ava as tech. 620 00:29:16,748 --> 00:29:18,092 He talks about it like it's human. 621 00:29:18,093 --> 00:29:19,783 Yeah, like it's his child. 622 00:29:20,783 --> 00:29:23,195 Meaning his motive isn't to protect his invention, 623 00:29:23,196 --> 00:29:24,954 it's to save his baby. 624 00:29:24,955 --> 00:29:28,678 A parent killing to protect their child, that's primal. 625 00:29:28,679 --> 00:29:30,575 And it tracks with the method. 626 00:29:30,576 --> 00:29:32,057 Getting behind the wheel. 627 00:29:32,058 --> 00:29:34,024 Running down the man who's gonna kill your baby. 628 00:29:35,679 --> 00:29:37,127 Behind the wheel... 629 00:29:42,990 --> 00:29:45,644 Texts that I wrote, essays that I published 630 00:29:45,645 --> 00:29:47,713 or posts that I liked so that she could feel... 631 00:29:47,714 --> 00:29:49,024 Service Ontario. 632 00:29:49,714 --> 00:29:51,230 When Zach turned 16, 633 00:29:51,231 --> 00:29:55,195 he registered a sedan in his name. Listed colour? 634 00:29:55,196 --> 00:29:56,127 Green. 635 00:30:00,783 --> 00:30:03,023 Hey, we just heard back from the OPP. 636 00:30:03,024 --> 00:30:05,057 They checked Zach's cabin. He's gone. 637 00:30:05,058 --> 00:30:07,024 The only person who knows how to reach him. 638 00:30:10,334 --> 00:30:13,575 I'm sorry, but I haven't spoken to Zach for weeks. 639 00:30:13,576 --> 00:30:16,162 Do you normally go that long without talking to your son? 640 00:30:18,058 --> 00:30:21,334 He left all this behind because he wanted space. 641 00:30:22,369 --> 00:30:24,230 I might not agree with him, but he's an adult. 642 00:30:24,231 --> 00:30:25,747 I have to respect his choices. 643 00:30:25,748 --> 00:30:27,369 Is this his old room? 644 00:30:32,162 --> 00:30:32,990 May I? 645 00:30:36,127 --> 00:30:38,885 So, as Zach's proxy, you'd be briefed 646 00:30:38,886 --> 00:30:41,713 on all the major company decisions, right? 647 00:30:41,714 --> 00:30:43,644 Like, if a whistle-blower 648 00:30:43,645 --> 00:30:45,230 was going to destroy the business? 649 00:30:45,231 --> 00:30:48,230 Yes, but I didn't talk about business with Zach. 650 00:30:48,231 --> 00:30:49,644 It frustrated him. 651 00:30:49,645 --> 00:30:51,437 So I stopped talking to him about Ava. 652 00:30:51,438 --> 00:30:53,644 Even if that meant destroying his life's work? 653 00:30:53,645 --> 00:30:56,230 I don't know how many ways I have to answer your question. 654 00:30:56,231 --> 00:30:57,816 I didn't tell him. 655 00:30:57,817 --> 00:31:01,471 Forgive me. When exactly was the last time you called him? 656 00:31:01,472 --> 00:31:03,126 I already told you, a month ago. 657 00:31:03,127 --> 00:31:05,092 And if we checked your call records, we could confirm it? 658 00:31:05,093 --> 00:31:06,093 Yes. 659 00:31:07,679 --> 00:31:08,507 Look for yourself. 660 00:31:15,921 --> 00:31:17,989 I'm more interested in the other phone. 661 00:31:17,990 --> 00:31:18,921 The landline. 662 00:31:19,817 --> 00:31:22,300 Sometimes the old ways are best. 663 00:31:27,265 --> 00:31:30,057 Sonia made a call the day Darius told her about Jason. 664 00:31:30,058 --> 00:31:31,989 The next day, Jason was killed. 665 00:31:31,990 --> 00:31:34,783 So Zach comes to town, kills Jason, then flees. 666 00:31:35,576 --> 00:31:36,541 Did you call the number? 667 00:31:37,438 --> 00:31:39,161 It's unlisted. Mark's working on it. 668 00:31:39,162 --> 00:31:39,990 What do you got? 669 00:31:41,265 --> 00:31:42,609 Zach's credit card. 670 00:31:42,610 --> 00:31:44,402 There are a lot of charges from about a year ago 671 00:31:44,403 --> 00:31:45,609 when he's setting up the cabin. 672 00:31:45,610 --> 00:31:47,713 But then he goes off grid, stops using it... 673 00:31:47,714 --> 00:31:49,609 And forgets that there's a recurring charge 674 00:31:49,610 --> 00:31:51,162 to YYZ Lockup. 675 00:31:51,541 --> 00:31:52,817 It's a storage locker. 676 00:31:58,162 --> 00:31:58,954 Mom, what is it? 677 00:31:58,955 --> 00:31:59,990 They're looking for you. 678 00:32:00,610 --> 00:32:03,333 I think they have my phone records. I don't... 679 00:32:03,334 --> 00:32:04,369 Mom, slow down. 680 00:32:05,403 --> 00:32:07,472 I probably shouldn't even be calling you. 681 00:32:08,783 --> 00:32:10,540 But they might try to find you. 682 00:32:24,886 --> 00:32:26,161 This is great. 683 00:32:26,162 --> 00:32:29,713 You have means, motive, opportunity. 684 00:32:29,714 --> 00:32:30,885 Thank you. 685 00:32:30,886 --> 00:32:31,954 You're only missing one thing. 686 00:32:31,955 --> 00:32:33,609 Our prime suspect. 687 00:32:33,610 --> 00:32:37,057 Specifically the location of your prime suspect, but yes. 688 00:32:37,058 --> 00:32:39,920 You get me Zach Winchell, I have more than enough to... 689 00:32:39,921 --> 00:32:42,885 to prove that he came back to Toronto and killed Jason. 690 00:32:42,886 --> 00:32:45,403 But I need a body in a courtroom to convict. 691 00:32:45,852 --> 00:32:47,057 Do you think he fled the country? 692 00:32:47,058 --> 00:32:49,264 If he did, it was under a false identity. 693 00:32:49,265 --> 00:32:51,161 We alerted border services. 694 00:32:51,162 --> 00:32:53,264 He has not officially fled the country. 695 00:32:53,265 --> 00:32:54,300 So he's in hiding. 696 00:32:55,093 --> 00:32:56,609 How do we smoke him out? 697 00:32:56,610 --> 00:32:57,576 The mom? 698 00:32:58,058 --> 00:32:59,816 - She's not saying anything. - Have you considered 699 00:32:59,817 --> 00:33:01,644 charging her with accessory after the fact? 700 00:33:01,645 --> 00:33:03,954 We've floated the possibility, but she's not talking. 701 00:33:03,955 --> 00:33:06,023 A mother who is willing to go to jail 702 00:33:06,024 --> 00:33:09,264 to protect her child is not easy to break. 703 00:33:09,265 --> 00:33:10,885 Then you have your work cut out for you. 704 00:33:10,886 --> 00:33:12,471 Trying to get a momma bear 705 00:33:12,472 --> 00:33:13,576 to give up her cub. 706 00:33:14,196 --> 00:33:15,024 Oh... 707 00:33:15,817 --> 00:33:18,333 Mark just got us Zach's phone number. 708 00:33:18,334 --> 00:33:20,230 Maybe it's time to stop dealing with the mom 709 00:33:20,231 --> 00:33:21,369 and go straight for the cub. 710 00:33:23,334 --> 00:33:25,023 How long does it take to trace a call? 711 00:33:25,024 --> 00:33:27,126 The best TPD techs can do it in five seconds. 712 00:33:27,127 --> 00:33:28,402 I can do it in two. 713 00:33:28,403 --> 00:33:30,816 Don't be fooled by the movies, it's a quick job. 714 00:33:30,817 --> 00:33:31,714 You ready? 715 00:33:36,162 --> 00:33:37,678 Hello? 716 00:33:37,679 --> 00:33:39,126 Hi, Zach. This is Detective John Darcy. 717 00:33:39,127 --> 00:33:41,609 Detective Sergeant, Guns and Gangs for five years. 718 00:33:41,610 --> 00:33:43,506 Yeah. My mom told me about you. 719 00:33:43,507 --> 00:33:44,954 I want to talk to you about Jason. 720 00:33:44,955 --> 00:33:46,264 I know why you're calling. 721 00:33:46,265 --> 00:33:47,990 And I want to tell you, I didn't kill him. 722 00:33:49,921 --> 00:33:50,920 And? 723 00:33:50,921 --> 00:33:52,195 I need a bit more time. 724 00:33:52,196 --> 00:33:53,334 Okay, so the movies were right. 725 00:33:54,162 --> 00:33:55,610 I'm glad to hear that. 726 00:33:56,403 --> 00:33:58,024 And I want to believe you. 727 00:33:58,783 --> 00:34:00,437 So why don't you come on down to the station 728 00:34:00,438 --> 00:34:02,057 and we can clear this up? 729 00:34:02,058 --> 00:34:03,575 You know I can't do that. 730 00:34:03,576 --> 00:34:06,299 Listen, I'm devastated about what happened to Jason. 731 00:34:06,300 --> 00:34:08,713 He was invaluable to the good I wanted to achieve with Ava. 732 00:34:08,714 --> 00:34:10,126 Zach, can you just give me a minute? 733 00:34:10,127 --> 00:34:13,437 For sure. But if it's to track my location, 734 00:34:13,438 --> 00:34:16,230 you're gonna be waiting a while. I built an LLM when I was 20. 735 00:34:16,231 --> 00:34:18,368 You think I can't dodge calls from a tracking program 736 00:34:18,369 --> 00:34:19,678 built in 2019? 737 00:34:19,679 --> 00:34:21,368 Updated in 24. 738 00:34:21,369 --> 00:34:23,368 He is right. His signal is pinging all over the world. 739 00:34:23,369 --> 00:34:26,437 Yeah, I think VPN, but worse. Much more complex. 740 00:34:26,438 --> 00:34:27,955 I can try, but it's... 741 00:34:29,058 --> 00:34:30,058 That's okay, Zach. 742 00:34:30,748 --> 00:34:32,333 I just want to talk. 743 00:34:32,334 --> 00:34:33,989 You're not gonna get me to turn myself in 744 00:34:33,990 --> 00:34:35,161 if that's what you're thinking. 745 00:34:35,162 --> 00:34:36,230 No, that's okay. 746 00:34:36,231 --> 00:34:37,299 Just want to talk. 747 00:34:37,300 --> 00:34:38,507 Talk? 748 00:34:38,921 --> 00:34:39,783 Yeah. 749 00:34:41,403 --> 00:34:42,403 Talk. 750 00:34:46,024 --> 00:34:48,610 I understand you don't have anything more to say. 751 00:34:49,817 --> 00:34:50,954 If it's all right with you, 752 00:34:50,955 --> 00:34:52,472 I'm just going to make a phone call. 753 00:35:01,576 --> 00:35:03,161 This is Rosie Bateman. 754 00:35:03,162 --> 00:35:05,195 You've reached the Bateman family cottage. 755 00:35:05,196 --> 00:35:07,368 Seeing that we're not around to answer your call, 756 00:35:07,369 --> 00:35:08,678 we're either fishing on the lake, 757 00:35:08,679 --> 00:35:10,678 or stuck on the highway. 758 00:35:10,679 --> 00:35:12,747 Leave a message at the beep. 759 00:35:15,748 --> 00:35:16,783 My grandmother. 760 00:35:18,334 --> 00:35:21,092 When she passed away, I wouldn't let anyone change 761 00:35:21,093 --> 00:35:22,471 the answering machine. 762 00:35:22,472 --> 00:35:24,300 Sometimes I call just to hear her voice. 763 00:35:25,300 --> 00:35:28,437 And for a moment, a brief moment, 764 00:35:28,438 --> 00:35:30,369 it feels like she's still here. 765 00:35:34,058 --> 00:35:37,816 The desire to talk to the ones we've lost is universal. 766 00:35:37,817 --> 00:35:40,126 There's a town in Japan. 767 00:35:40,127 --> 00:35:45,506 They built a phone booth for people to call the dead. 768 00:35:45,507 --> 00:35:47,161 They call it a wind phone. 769 00:35:47,162 --> 00:35:51,748 It's a place for people to feel connected to those they've lost. 770 00:35:55,990 --> 00:35:57,540 This is your son's number. 771 00:35:57,541 --> 00:35:59,816 Hello? 772 00:35:59,817 --> 00:36:02,507 - Hi, Zach. It's... - Detective Darcy. I know. 773 00:36:03,162 --> 00:36:06,264 I'm here with Detective Bateman and your mother. 774 00:36:06,265 --> 00:36:07,851 You're on speaker. 775 00:36:07,852 --> 00:36:10,437 We're in your old bedroom right now. 776 00:36:10,438 --> 00:36:12,230 Mom? Is everything okay? 777 00:36:12,231 --> 00:36:15,264 You don't have to tell them anything. You can hang up. 778 00:36:15,265 --> 00:36:17,575 Zach, just hang on the line. 779 00:36:17,576 --> 00:36:18,783 Just for a moment. 780 00:36:20,714 --> 00:36:24,265 Hey, I like your Eiffel Tower snow globe. 781 00:36:25,438 --> 00:36:27,161 Tell me about your trip to Paris. 782 00:36:27,162 --> 00:36:28,816 You don't need to tell them anything. 783 00:36:28,817 --> 00:36:30,195 Zach, tell me about Paris. 784 00:36:30,196 --> 00:36:33,023 Paris? Uh, okay. 785 00:36:33,024 --> 00:36:35,127 I went with my mom when I was twelve. 786 00:36:35,576 --> 00:36:37,299 She wanted to show me art, culture, 787 00:36:37,300 --> 00:36:39,126 but I was most excited about the food. 788 00:36:39,127 --> 00:36:40,782 That's strange, Zach. 789 00:36:40,783 --> 00:36:42,575 Because... 790 00:36:42,576 --> 00:36:45,334 We went through your passport records and... 791 00:36:46,645 --> 00:36:48,230 You've never been to France. 792 00:36:48,231 --> 00:36:50,127 You're trying to trick him. 793 00:36:53,403 --> 00:36:55,092 You're just confused. 794 00:36:55,093 --> 00:36:58,886 I got it for you when I was on a work trip. 795 00:36:59,714 --> 00:37:01,368 You just got mixed up. 796 00:37:01,369 --> 00:37:04,644 Oh yeah. You're right. Sorry. I got a bit confused. 797 00:37:04,645 --> 00:37:07,127 I'm a bit scattered right now, I don't know why I said that. 798 00:37:07,541 --> 00:37:08,782 Zach, hang up, now. 799 00:37:08,783 --> 00:37:10,644 But, are you sure? Mom? 800 00:37:10,645 --> 00:37:12,127 Mom, I don't think I should leave you, m... 801 00:37:17,679 --> 00:37:19,402 Are you worried about what would happen 802 00:37:19,403 --> 00:37:21,162 if I kept asking questions? 803 00:37:21,507 --> 00:37:23,609 It's understandable he got confused. 804 00:37:23,610 --> 00:37:25,265 It happens all the time, apparently. 805 00:37:25,748 --> 00:37:27,817 They're technically called hallucinations. 806 00:37:29,058 --> 00:37:30,783 Because the truth is... 807 00:37:31,783 --> 00:37:33,645 I wasn't really talking to Zach, was I? 808 00:37:35,714 --> 00:37:38,265 I don't understand. 809 00:37:39,679 --> 00:37:40,885 What are you saying? 810 00:37:40,886 --> 00:37:43,264 We've been talking to a version of Ava 811 00:37:43,265 --> 00:37:45,472 modified to sound like your son. 812 00:37:45,990 --> 00:37:51,541 Trained to respond like him, but it's not really him, is it? 813 00:37:53,403 --> 00:37:54,507 Sonia. 814 00:37:56,645 --> 00:38:00,885 When you create something, you make it in your image. 815 00:38:00,886 --> 00:38:03,644 You brought your son Zach into the world. 816 00:38:03,645 --> 00:38:05,506 Parts of you exist in him. 817 00:38:05,507 --> 00:38:07,644 And the same is true for Zach's creation. 818 00:38:07,645 --> 00:38:09,644 He made Ava. 819 00:38:09,645 --> 00:38:12,506 He trained it on himself. On his works, on his taste, 820 00:38:12,507 --> 00:38:13,333 on his posts. 821 00:38:13,334 --> 00:38:14,954 He made her in his image. 822 00:38:14,955 --> 00:38:16,678 A digital facsimile. 823 00:38:16,679 --> 00:38:19,333 But we've only heard a woman's voice at Ava, so I'm thinking 824 00:38:19,334 --> 00:38:21,540 he found a way to give it his voice, literally. 825 00:38:21,541 --> 00:38:26,885 But the bigger question is why are you calling 826 00:38:26,886 --> 00:38:29,575 an AI version of Zach? Why not call your own son? 827 00:38:29,576 --> 00:38:33,471 That is Zach. I told you, he just got confused. 828 00:38:33,472 --> 00:38:35,230 Sonia, our technicians looked into that voice. 829 00:38:35,231 --> 00:38:37,057 It lives on the Ava server. 830 00:38:37,058 --> 00:38:38,816 Zach left a backdoor in the system. 831 00:38:38,817 --> 00:38:41,713 He accessed it months ago, and he gave it his voice. 832 00:38:41,714 --> 00:38:45,369 It's a ghost in the machine. But only that. 833 00:38:46,196 --> 00:38:47,162 A ghost. 834 00:38:51,645 --> 00:38:53,024 What happened to Zach? 835 00:38:57,852 --> 00:38:58,886 Sonia? 836 00:38:59,886 --> 00:39:02,783 Sonia, it's okay, we just want to know what happened to him. 837 00:39:09,645 --> 00:39:10,714 Did he leave a note? 838 00:39:13,955 --> 00:39:14,783 When? 839 00:39:15,438 --> 00:39:17,610 About... 840 00:39:20,093 --> 00:39:21,783 two months ago. 841 00:39:23,403 --> 00:39:25,093 Where is the note? 842 00:39:26,576 --> 00:39:27,714 Is it gone? 843 00:39:33,024 --> 00:39:34,472 Sonia, what did the note say? 844 00:39:37,886 --> 00:39:41,231 He said... Goodbye. 845 00:39:44,369 --> 00:39:48,057 That it was all too much. 846 00:39:48,058 --> 00:39:50,852 That he couldn't take it anymore. 847 00:39:53,990 --> 00:39:57,852 He said that he was going on a canoe trip 848 00:39:58,783 --> 00:40:01,507 and that he wasn't going to come home. 849 00:40:03,162 --> 00:40:05,093 But he left you a parting gift, didn't he? 850 00:40:05,886 --> 00:40:08,713 He left you a wind phone to talk back. 851 00:40:08,714 --> 00:40:10,576 He gave it his voice. 852 00:40:11,886 --> 00:40:12,852 Just for me. 853 00:40:14,921 --> 00:40:19,231 He said that I could call a number and he would answer. 854 00:40:20,472 --> 00:40:22,609 He said nothing had to change. 855 00:40:22,610 --> 00:40:24,195 So you didn't tell anyone what happened. 856 00:40:24,196 --> 00:40:26,230 You threw away the note. Nothing had to change. 857 00:40:26,231 --> 00:40:28,403 The voice on the other end of the line was still there. 858 00:40:28,886 --> 00:40:29,748 And it worked. 859 00:40:30,472 --> 00:40:34,196 Until something forced you to confront the truth. 860 00:40:34,714 --> 00:40:35,816 Jason. 861 00:40:35,817 --> 00:40:38,126 The man who wanted to destroy Ava. 862 00:40:38,127 --> 00:40:40,368 Destroy the servers with your son's voice. 863 00:40:40,369 --> 00:40:42,472 Effectively, killing Zach all over again. 864 00:40:43,610 --> 00:40:46,057 If you do nothing, the voice on the other end of the line, 865 00:40:46,058 --> 00:40:47,851 it goes dead. Forever. 866 00:40:47,852 --> 00:40:49,058 Yes. 867 00:40:50,645 --> 00:40:53,576 I met with Jason. 868 00:40:54,403 --> 00:40:58,161 I told him what it would mean if he went through with it. 869 00:40:58,162 --> 00:41:00,127 That I would lose Zach. 870 00:41:01,265 --> 00:41:03,334 But I couldn't lose Zach. 871 00:41:06,300 --> 00:41:08,127 But he wouldn't listen. 872 00:41:10,127 --> 00:41:12,747 And then he walked away. 873 00:41:12,748 --> 00:41:13,990 To destroy Ava? 874 00:41:15,058 --> 00:41:16,368 To destroy Zach? 875 00:41:16,369 --> 00:41:17,231 Yes. 876 00:41:20,679 --> 00:41:23,127 So then I got back in Zach's car. 877 00:41:23,852 --> 00:41:27,093 I was driving so fast, and I just didn't... 878 00:41:27,921 --> 00:41:29,334 Stop. I... 879 00:41:34,369 --> 00:41:35,886 I didn't stop. 880 00:41:42,507 --> 00:41:45,610 I wasn't ready to say goodbye to my child. 881 00:41:47,645 --> 00:41:49,058 I'm not ready! 882 00:42:10,576 --> 00:42:12,299 What's going to happen to Zach? 883 00:42:12,300 --> 00:42:13,886 We can't hide what Ava did. 884 00:42:14,714 --> 00:42:16,507 The world needs to know what happened. 885 00:42:17,817 --> 00:42:20,713 News will drop. Ava will go dark. 886 00:42:20,714 --> 00:42:22,196 And so will Zach. 887 00:42:22,610 --> 00:42:26,265 Sonia, it might be time to finally say goodbye. 888 00:42:52,507 --> 00:42:54,645 What she went through... 889 00:42:56,024 --> 00:42:57,541 I don't know how anyone survives it. 890 00:43:02,024 --> 00:43:03,403 Grief is... 891 00:43:04,369 --> 00:43:05,955 I don't know. 892 00:43:08,024 --> 00:43:09,127 I don't know if it ever ends. 893 00:43:11,438 --> 00:43:14,127 But I think it's up to you to face the pain. 894 00:43:15,886 --> 00:43:19,058 And so you suffer. It's part of living. 895 00:43:20,783 --> 00:43:21,955 If we lose that... 896 00:43:22,886 --> 00:43:24,610 We lose what makes us human. 897 00:43:29,231 --> 00:43:31,403 difuze